Hi guys, just a quick question about ogm files. i asked about this format some weeks ago already but it seems like this format has a mind of its own. I mean I can get most ogm movies run just fine, but it feels like every other day something new is wrong. E.g. something new i'm batting with right now is that the ogm movies are very choppy when I play them, and then i have to mess around with various codecs like nimo, Xvid and directshow ogg until i finally get it working 100% just to find out the same movie is super choppy the next day again, and i swear i haven't changed codecs or anything in between....so my quick question (which turned out not to be so quick anyway) is, isn't there some way to permanently fix this? like throw in a codec that just eats any movie in any lousy format so you never have to mess around like this again?
EDIT: An example to prove my point, i just fixed it so that i could watch a movie without this chug-chug action but wanted to put on subtitles in the movie, but after changing it the chops were back, also after removing the subtitles again.... /em scratches behind his ear..
Problems with *.ogm movies
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I guess you could re-install your windows
/me loves people who tell you that
Everytime I hear this as a good way to solve the problem I'd like to stand next to that person and slap him very hard on the back of his head. It's like nobody gets that you _know_ that this is a solution but you ask to prevent that for it will take a day or two untill you have everything back running again and no guarantee that it will work then. Most of the time it does, but not always...
Anyway, you could search the forum here or visit doom9.org forums, the people there usually know everything.
At the moment I'd say that you could re-install the video codecs you use for ogm files still use those - but you already did that. What I noticed is that if you install all those codecs too often then things can get messed up and the only thing that solved that was another computer. The problem went away after I (tadaaa) re-installed windows
I guess you should not use any codec packs, just the stuff you really need.
- Xvid 1.0
- DivX 5
- ogm splitter
- directvobsub
- ac3 filter
- aac filter
- mp3 codec
- matroska file splitter
You can get these files on the homepage of Zoomplayer. Once you downloaded it it will provide you with download links to the files.
http://www.inmatrix.com/files/zoomplayer_download.shtml
I guess you could re-install your windows
/me loves people who tell you that
Everytime I hear this as a good way to solve the problem I'd like to stand next to that person and slap him very hard on the back of his head. It's like nobody gets that you _know_ that this is a solution but you ask to prevent that for it will take a day or two untill you have everything back running again and no guarantee that it will work then. Most of the time it does, but not always...
Anyway, you could search the forum here or visit doom9.org forums, the people there usually know everything.
At the moment I'd say that you could re-install the video codecs you use for ogm files still use those - but you already did that. What I noticed is that if you install all those codecs too often then things can get messed up and the only thing that solved that was another computer. The problem went away after I (tadaaa) re-installed windows
I guess you should not use any codec packs, just the stuff you really need.
- Xvid 1.0
- DivX 5
- ogm splitter
- directvobsub
- ac3 filter
- aac filter
- mp3 codec
- matroska file splitter
You can get these files on the homepage of Zoomplayer. Once you downloaded it it will provide you with download links to the files.
http://www.inmatrix.com/files/zoomplayer_download.shtml
.ogm can be tricky, but when it works perfectly youll love it
Ive been using a codec pack called ACE Mega Codec pack, and it works withouth quirks at all. there's a nice feature in the installer of that codec pack and thats a aggressive remover, which the name may imply, it forcibly removes every single audio/video codec from the machine before it puts in the codecs from the pack. I think thats one of the reasons this package works so well, as there are no other codecs installed on the puter and might trigger some incompatible errors.
anyhows, if you choose to try out ACE, dont use FULL install, use only PLAYER or HYPER (same as player only with a few extra progs like divfix, avipreview, tag editor and such) when installing. full gives you a tonne of extra codecs that youll never use while player gives what you need.
btw, if you need a good mediaplayer, try out Zoomplayer, I simply love it and with that extreme high level of configurability and key commands, it was easy to program my wireless gamepad to remote controll ZP.. from start/pause/stop, volume, fast fwd/bw, next/prev, open/load, fullscreen/window, zoom, adjustments to brightness, contrast, hue, saturation, gamma.. nothing beats a big screen, comfy chair and a large supply of snacks and coca cola without having the need to get up to change movie/ep
Ive been using a codec pack called ACE Mega Codec pack, and it works withouth quirks at all. there's a nice feature in the installer of that codec pack and thats a aggressive remover, which the name may imply, it forcibly removes every single audio/video codec from the machine before it puts in the codecs from the pack. I think thats one of the reasons this package works so well, as there are no other codecs installed on the puter and might trigger some incompatible errors.
anyhows, if you choose to try out ACE, dont use FULL install, use only PLAYER or HYPER (same as player only with a few extra progs like divfix, avipreview, tag editor and such) when installing. full gives you a tonne of extra codecs that youll never use while player gives what you need.
btw, if you need a good mediaplayer, try out Zoomplayer, I simply love it and with that extreme high level of configurability and key commands, it was easy to program my wireless gamepad to remote controll ZP.. from start/pause/stop, volume, fast fwd/bw, next/prev, open/load, fullscreen/window, zoom, adjustments to brightness, contrast, hue, saturation, gamma.. nothing beats a big screen, comfy chair and a large supply of snacks and coca cola without having the need to get up to change movie/ep
I recently bought a new laptop with 15" display and a 1400x1050 resolution.. that's not a biggie compared to my large-ass TV but the downside of that super duper damn TV is that it's a plasma and that those wear out when you use them. Now back to my laptop. I was pretty stunned that the sound is really awesome so now I simply put the laptop on the table in front of me either in my livingroom or in my bedroom and because of the resolution and the sound everything is really perfect. No real need for me to set up the TV, especially because on the plasma I have to adjust the screen size so everything is covered since if you do not wear out the display evenly you will get shadows on the edges where the screen was used and where it wasn't. Damn I am so angry when I think about it but the laptop really made this go away.
Now I don't really need my Bluetooth mouse and keyboard anymore to control the PC which is connected to the TV, the TV does not wear out, the laptop is less noisy than the TV and the PC, everything is fine and I am happy.
Maybe once LCD displays are available for 2000 Euro in the 42" range I will re-consider setting up everything again. To be honest at the moment I'd have to re-wire everything anyway for you know you can't even play a friggin PS2 game if it isn't in 16:9 because of that plasma thing and I really don't want to wear it out with playing.
Ergo: don't buy plasma TVs. They suck and make you ramble on bulletin boards
Now I don't really need my Bluetooth mouse and keyboard anymore to control the PC which is connected to the TV, the TV does not wear out, the laptop is less noisy than the TV and the PC, everything is fine and I am happy.
Maybe once LCD displays are available for 2000 Euro in the 42" range I will re-consider setting up everything again. To be honest at the moment I'd have to re-wire everything anyway for you know you can't even play a friggin PS2 game if it isn't in 16:9 because of that plasma thing and I really don't want to wear it out with playing.
Ergo: don't buy plasma TVs. They suck and make you ramble on bulletin boards
Codec packs are evil.
Do yourself a favor and learn how to manually install codecs. In the long run, your Windows will be thankful, resulting in a more stable system, better video playback and less reinstalls. And on top of that, you know exactly what's installed and where it's installed.
Now, for OGM files, there's normally no way around the OggDS9555 splitter, a rather crappy piece of software which has a bug that will make Explorer crash if you have the folder tasks (only applies to XP) or thumbnails enabled. Disable both of these, and you'll be fine.
On top of that, you also need the codecs that were used to encode the video and audio stream inside the OGM file. OggDS9555 already includes an OggVorbis decoder filter. DivX 5.1 can be found on many homepages (and eMule, of course; btw, get 5.1 and not 5.1.1 or 5.1.2 - those two versions are broken), Koepi's XviD builds can be found via Google easily. To cope with problematic videos that trigger bugs in DivX or were created with old, broken XviD versions, also get the latest inofficial ffdshow. You can set everything to disabled in ffdshow's codecs configuration, and only enable it for certain formats when the real decoder filter (XviD or DivX) has problems. Finally, Microsoft's Windows Media codecs let you play videos encoded with WMV9 or older versions, even without installing Windows Media Player 9.
As for audio: Besides OggVorbis, you'll probably need the AC3Filter (available from SourceForge) to play many DVD rips, and CoreAAC. The latter is quite rarely used still, but it can be found in use in a few recent high quality encodes.
To make the list complete, the Matroska splitter provides support for mkv videos, and VSFilter plays embedded or external video files, with full support for SSA v4+ style effects and formatting, as well as many other subtitle formats.
With these filters and Zoom Player, you should be able to play almost all videos without problems. The exceptions to this are OGM videos that trigger the aforementioned bug in OggDS9555 which makes ZoomPlayer just give up and close, without a warning usually. In this case, it's good a idea to have one of these two alternative players: Gabest's Media Player Classic has a built-in OGM-splitter that works, and the Video Lan Client has everything built in and is completely independent from any external filters or codecs.
The only major formats that are missing so far are QuickTime (but who needs that anyway?) and Real Media (but who... you get the idea). For both of these formats, some people have written decoder filters that allow QuickTime and RealMedia files to be viewed in other, DirectShow aware players (such as ZoomPlayer), without installing the usually spyware ridden commercial players. Both filters can be found via Google easily.
That's all you really need. Don't let someone push a codec pack on you because it has one filter that is claimed to magically solve your problem. There is no such thing as magic. If you lack a filter, get that one filter and install it, not an entire pack. Would you buy 20 hens to make one omlet?
Finally, about fixing your current playback problems...
First, deinstall any and all codec packs. If you can still play an ordinary DivX 3 AVI file with MP3 sound after that, praise yourself lucky. Otherwhise the codec packs have crippled your DirectShow filters and you're in for a trip to the Windows Setup CD. Assuming that you're not reinstalling, fetch a tool such as GraphEdit or ZoomPlayer Pro's integrated filter management (word of warning: I haven't tested that yet and have actually no idea how well it works) and look for filters that are registered but don't belong into your DirectShow configuration. The huge problem is identifying those filters and telling them apart from ones that are part of a default Windows installation, and to be frank, even I can't do that (without looking at a newly installed Windows as reference). Once found, deregister the rougue filters, install the codecs and filters listed above and hold your breath while trying to play an OGM video in ZoomPlayer.
Do yourself a favor and learn how to manually install codecs. In the long run, your Windows will be thankful, resulting in a more stable system, better video playback and less reinstalls. And on top of that, you know exactly what's installed and where it's installed.
Now, for OGM files, there's normally no way around the OggDS9555 splitter, a rather crappy piece of software which has a bug that will make Explorer crash if you have the folder tasks (only applies to XP) or thumbnails enabled. Disable both of these, and you'll be fine.
On top of that, you also need the codecs that were used to encode the video and audio stream inside the OGM file. OggDS9555 already includes an OggVorbis decoder filter. DivX 5.1 can be found on many homepages (and eMule, of course; btw, get 5.1 and not 5.1.1 or 5.1.2 - those two versions are broken), Koepi's XviD builds can be found via Google easily. To cope with problematic videos that trigger bugs in DivX or were created with old, broken XviD versions, also get the latest inofficial ffdshow. You can set everything to disabled in ffdshow's codecs configuration, and only enable it for certain formats when the real decoder filter (XviD or DivX) has problems. Finally, Microsoft's Windows Media codecs let you play videos encoded with WMV9 or older versions, even without installing Windows Media Player 9.
As for audio: Besides OggVorbis, you'll probably need the AC3Filter (available from SourceForge) to play many DVD rips, and CoreAAC. The latter is quite rarely used still, but it can be found in use in a few recent high quality encodes.
To make the list complete, the Matroska splitter provides support for mkv videos, and VSFilter plays embedded or external video files, with full support for SSA v4+ style effects and formatting, as well as many other subtitle formats.
With these filters and Zoom Player, you should be able to play almost all videos without problems. The exceptions to this are OGM videos that trigger the aforementioned bug in OggDS9555 which makes ZoomPlayer just give up and close, without a warning usually. In this case, it's good a idea to have one of these two alternative players: Gabest's Media Player Classic has a built-in OGM-splitter that works, and the Video Lan Client has everything built in and is completely independent from any external filters or codecs.
The only major formats that are missing so far are QuickTime (but who needs that anyway?) and Real Media (but who... you get the idea). For both of these formats, some people have written decoder filters that allow QuickTime and RealMedia files to be viewed in other, DirectShow aware players (such as ZoomPlayer), without installing the usually spyware ridden commercial players. Both filters can be found via Google easily.
That's all you really need. Don't let someone push a codec pack on you because it has one filter that is claimed to magically solve your problem. There is no such thing as magic. If you lack a filter, get that one filter and install it, not an entire pack. Would you buy 20 hens to make one omlet?
Finally, about fixing your current playback problems...
First, deinstall any and all codec packs. If you can still play an ordinary DivX 3 AVI file with MP3 sound after that, praise yourself lucky. Otherwhise the codec packs have crippled your DirectShow filters and you're in for a trip to the Windows Setup CD. Assuming that you're not reinstalling, fetch a tool such as GraphEdit or ZoomPlayer Pro's integrated filter management (word of warning: I haven't tested that yet and have actually no idea how well it works) and look for filters that are registered but don't belong into your DirectShow configuration. The huge problem is identifying those filters and telling them apart from ones that are part of a default Windows installation, and to be frank, even I can't do that (without looking at a newly installed Windows as reference). Once found, deregister the rougue filters, install the codecs and filters listed above and hold your breath while trying to play an OGM video in ZoomPlayer.
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