Fansub/Rip flag [DONE/DENIED]

[Skywalka]

I thought about this a bit.

First of all I think it is pretty hard to find these things our for sure. If you are not part of a fansubbing group most of the time you have a hard time finding out what the source is (TV/DTV/DVD/HKDVD) - to find out more about a file is close to impossible. We all know that A-E subs TnK themselves, we most likely also all know that Dejaymaxx uses subs from AonE (?) to sub GitS SAC. I guess of all the files currently in the DB there are about 1 to 2 % where we can add information of this kind because we _know_ it, and that is a requirement.

The overall use in the end (I think) is to find out what quality we can expect, while the quality rating for a file is currently set by a single user - the person who adds the file to the DB.

I honestly think as long as we don't have some kind of option to all vote on the quality of single files adding these DB fields is a waste of ressources. There is nothing better suited to give a user the information on if he should download or not then via the stars given for a file (the quality rating).

Additionally at the moment there are many files that don't even have the video/audio codec and bitrates added. 99% of the files won't have any use for these new possible entries, as well as the problem where to get this info and how it will be interpreted.

Let's take that GitS SAC example again. Let's say we can now add "R2 DVD RIP" (from Japan, without subs - by the way: do the users really know that if they see the info "R2 DVD"?) to the file. Which means the file has been subbed by the group. Wrong. Dejaymaxx did not sub the file, AonE did. So all of the information did not contribute to getting the user informed, the information can only be misinterpreted. Which will result in users (maybe even me) wanting to add a comment in the comment field about the info that is given - and then we end up with two additional drop down fields that need additional interpretation in the comments where you could have added the information altogether in the first place.

I regard this more as an "encyclopedia" feature - it gives the user information on the background of a file. Stuff like this can not easily be pressed into drop down fields and I think it therefor should not be added at the moment.

(additional ranting):

There are other things that need attention and honestly at the moment I do not need new options that I will have the to urge to fill out because they are there and then run around trying to find out what a file's background is just to find out that the only way to know it is if I was in the group who did the rip. And even then in the last three weeks I had it two times that a group re-released files and had it done by someone in the group who had a corrupted file. He published it via BT on scarywater and in the end I went to the channel of that group, mentioned it and they had to admit "yes, that file has a wrong CRC". Nobody noticed. Hundreds of people downloaded those torrents and nobody noticed, not even the group themselves. As long as we cannot rely on the group to even add CRCs to their filenames, add CRCs to their websites, add publish dates, fix the info on envirosphere I honestly think we do not need new DB entries that heavily rely on second hand information - hell I often enough leave the entry "source" on "unknown" even though I have a two year background, remember something fromt he Sharereactor forums but I cannot be _sure_ that the info I have is correct.

Oh and additonally we still have "VBR" as a codec option and more then half of the time I have "DivX 4" and "OpenDivX" and we still can not decide whether these are in fact all XviD or whatnot. My point: the DB has a lot of information that can be debated on already, though this stuff is mere technical. The option demanded here is to a large extend non technical but more history related and I really don't want the DB to get more hypothetical or based on heresay. Those people who know that a file has been done this or that way know because they are really into reading forums and stuff. They would benefit from text explaining the history of a release more than from a mere dropdown box that hints that a file is a bit different. I only would get curious, not better informed. I would not be able to tell if a file is now of higher or lower quality because of this and that, and at the moment that information (if a file is good or not) is what most of the users want to know.

[DonGato]

We all know that A-E subs TnK themselves, we most likely also all know that Dejaymaxx uses subs from AonE (?) to sub GitS SAC.

Yes, we know that and I think ROD TV as well, but there are groups as Ani-Kraze that are doing Scrapped Princess with DVD source and their subs, but I think I understand your concern... there is more useful info for us to lose time with this and risk wrong entries.

[exp]

well,

I don't think we need any additional voting feature for file quality, that's what the anime<->group voting is meant for.
And once enough users voted there i think it will give a good hint on file quality. (Especially when switching to the groups overview page and taking a look at the ratings of their older releases).

BYe!
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