Give review ability only if an anime is finished. [tracked]

[Lion]

I had this idea for quite a bit of time, but I was always unsure about it.
But after reading this :
http://anidb.ath.cx/perl-bin/animedb.pl ... id=998#986

I think that a review done while an anime isn't finished is absolutly nonsense. I mean, what is the point on writing a review BEFORE a show is finished? You could change all your ideas after you have seen the last episode (not talking about a anime that has just started ), so there are only two possible ways:

1) You edit your review, writing your new feelings (and thus causing both additional work for the server, and missleading who read your review before)

2) You don't edit your review, not boring at all about it, thus leaving something that don't express what you thought about the anime, again missleading who will read it.

For all this I think it should be put a limit about reviewing an anime: or it is already finished or, if it is a really long show, after a certain (great) number of episodes (let's say 50).

What do you think about it?

[wahaha]

I think that a review done while an anime isn't finished is absolutly nonsense. I mean, what is the point on writing a review BEFORE a show is finished? You could change all your ideas after you have seen the last episode (not talking about a anime that has just started )

I agree that this can hardly be called a review, but it could be useful for long series (as you wrote) or for people who want to know a well-written (first) "impression" (- in this post, I'll use this term for such "reviews").

The additional server-load for editing a review is negligible and an unedited "impression" would probably be rated badly soon, so these two are minor problems IMO.

However, the real problem is that it should be clearly stated that it's just an impression of the series and not a review - and the "reviewers" should of course be reminded of updating their views on the anime once they finished it.

For all this I think it should be put a limit about reviewing an anime: or it is already finished or, if it is a really long show, after a certain (great) number of episodes (let's say 50).

Here's the same problem as for votes (see Feature Request: Disallow voting on animes that didn't yet air):
It's not possible for AniDB to clearly determine whether an anime aired already or not.

What do you think about it?

As I'm not completely against these "impressions" I'd suggest to:
I) Add an "I watched all episodes"-checkbox to each review-entry, which would be unchecked by default (or checked when it's complete & watched in one's mylist). It should be possible to manually toggle it.
II) Each review that is marked with "I watched all episodes" could have some kind of note attached to them in the overview
III) There could be some kind of message being sent to the user when all eps were marked watched, or such "reviews" could be hidden/moved after the anime has aired completely (+ some days/weeks).

[Lion]

...an unedited "impression" would probably be rated badly soon...

Well, I'm not so sure about it, perhaps it would be usefull to automatic show these "impressions" at the bottom of the reviews'page, with an "Impression" title.

However, the real problem is that it should be clearly stated that it's just an impression of the series and not a review - and the "reviewers" should of course be reminded of updating their views on the anime once they finished it.
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As I'm not completely against these "impressions" I'd suggest to:
I) Add an "I watched all episodes"-checkbox to each review-entry, which would be unchecked by default (or checked when it's complete & watched in one's mylist). It should be possible to manually toggle it.
II) Each review that is marked with "I watched all episodes" could have some kind of note attached to them in the overview
III) There could be some kind of message being sent to the user when all eps were marked watched, or such "reviews" could be hidden/moved after the anime has aired completely (+ some days/weeks).

That is indeed a very good suggestion! I'm impressed!

I think it could be better this way:
1) Reviews done without having watched all the episodes (according to anidb's episode number, and this only applies if it is different from 0, in witch case they would be automatically put in ) goes in the "Impressions" section.
2) Impressions should be showed in another color in the review list, both the personal and the full.
3) It is not possible to vote for the impressions (there is no meaning in doing this, because they are only impressions that could change in the future, bringing a very good or very lame review). The impressions will not hinder the reading of the good reviews because they are showed at bottom by default.
4) When all the episodes are watched by the reviewer, he/she has simply to go to his/her review and click/check something (that shouldn't be clickable before having watched all the episodes of course).

I read the topic you pointed... it is indeed a problem. I don't know how to solve it, perhaps your idea could be implemented anyway, because the impression would be showed, even if the user hasn't the files in his/her mylist.
Boh
Just now I don't have any clue, perhaps I should wait to see resolved the other Feature request.

[Gambit]

It would make more sense to have a 'Preview' field beside the 'Reviews'. That way people could give a preview of the series after watching a few episodes. That will be useful for new, ongoing series, while the Reviews will be used for people who want to voice their opinion after having seen the entire series.
Sounds good?

[Skywalka]

I would like to add that for instance "Queen Millenia" is currenlty not available via AniDB (41/42 episodes in AniDB) and that the only files available are german TV rips with only the german audio, no subtitles.

The series aired a couple of times in germany already. It has been off the air for a couple of years.

It would be strange to prevent people who have watched all (or almost all) episodes of a series on regular TV, including of course the ending, from writing a review.

Since there are a lot of series where this applies (especially WMT series) it should not be a forced requirement to have all episodes in your mylist and all of them watched.

To get to the technical part: as long as the series has "0" for number of episodes because nobody knows how many it will have, or it is a neverending series like Inu Yasha it would render the calculation impossible whether or not the user actually watched all episodes.

And of course he/she could also simply add some files and claim them watched even if this wasn't true.

Face it folks: you "cry" for a moderator , nothing more, nothing less. It's like asking for a switch to prevent morons from posting

[wahaha]

I think it could be better this way:
1) Reviews done without having watched all the episodes (according to anidb's episode number, and this only applies if it is different from 0, in witch case they would be automatically put in ) goes in the "Impressions" section.

As emphasized by Skywalka, it is impossible to sort out the "watched all episodes"-problem.
That's one reason why I suggested the (user-controlled) checkbox. It could initially be set or unset by looking at the (p)reviewer's mylist, but it can still be corrected by the user.

It would make more sense to have a 'Preview' field beside the 'Reviews'. That way people could give a preview of the series after watching a few episodes. That will be useful for new, ongoing series, while the Reviews will be used for people who want to voice their opinion after having seen the entire series.

I think it's not unlikely that a "review" can derive from what previous was a "preview" just by refining the different aspects and taking the ending into account. Such a review would make the preview it's based on obsolete, so these two are closely connected.
That's the other reason why I suggested using a simple checkbox to distinguish them. That way, the previewer wouldn't have to copy/paste and delete the own preview.

2) Impressions should be showed in another color in the review list, both the personal and the full.

Agreed for the personal list - although I think it may be better to put reviews and previews on different pages.

3) It is not possible to vote for the impressions (there is no meaning in doing this, because they are only impressions that could change in the future, bringing a very good or very lame review).

I think one could start without allowing to rate them.
However, if the same problems arise as for actual reviews (too many bad reviews more visible than the good ones), a rating for previews might have to be used aswell.

I would like to add that for instance "Queen Millenia" is currenlty not available via AniDB (41/42 episodes in AniDB)

The recap, "ep32a", is missing... I'll go fix it ^^

Face it folks: you "cry" for a moderator , nothing more, nothing less. It's like asking for a switch to prevent morons from posting

I really believe the reviewers could properly handle this on their own without any "categorization from above".
Of course, it may become neccessary to have dedicated review-mods (e.g. to help anidb-newbies)... one day - but why right now?