Change main behavior of adding files? [DENIED]

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LStranger
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Change main behavior of adding files? [DENIED]

Post by LStranger »

Now we have two main ways to add files:
1. Go to ed2kdump, add file. If file doesn't exist then go to animelist, find anime, run "add new file".
2. Go to animelist, find anime, find file that has near the same size and add it. If alike file doesn't found then run "add new file".

Second way is very dangerous since:
1. That file may have no ed2k link at all so may be another file.
2. That file may have another ed2k hash and crc/md5 sum.
3. That file may be fully another file with the same size.
4. That file may be even wrong file from the same group.
So we have that. :(

I propose change that behavior to next:
1. Go to ed2kdump, add file, if file doesn't exist then by clicking on "unknown file" we could get select list (based on some regexps from name of file and existing animes) and short way to add new file feature.
We may also don't click on that "unknown file" then we'll not add file to mylist, of course. ;)

That proposed way is some combination of current two but isn't dangerous anymore. :)
PetriW
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Post by PetriW »

I don't really see what you want here but if you want to remove the option for people to add files without an ed2k link then remember consider this:
I have 300+ CDs with anime, foing through all these CDs and generating file hashes would take weeks of dedicated adding, not to forget all the corrupt files that I wont be able to add at all.
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Post by Elberet »

I don't think that's what he means... ;)

The way I understood it, he wants the ed2kdump to not discard ed2k hashes for files it doesn't know, but instead offer means to add these unknown files to the anidb, something like a "Sorry, 20/100 files you tried to import into your mylist do not appear in the database yet. Do you want to add them to AniDB now?"

It would probably look somewhat similar to the ed2kwatch, only that the list is private. You'd be able to browse the anime list, pick one out, then select all unknown files that you want to add to that anime and then it brings up a form like the mass-add form, only that the ed2k links and file sizes are already filled in and you have to tell it which ep number, group, quality, resolution, etc... each file is.

Sounds like quite a hassle to implement...
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Post by LStranger »

PetriW wrote:I have 300+ CDs with anime, foing through all these CDs and generating file hashes would take weeks of dedicated adding, not to forget all the corrupt files that I wont be able to add at all.
I have 600+ CDs with anime and I've already spent above a month to generate ed2k links for these but I found it very useful to find if some of these have bad checksum and unfortunately I found most of files in AniDB have no file info or have no crc/md5 sums or don't verified. So when I finish adding all my files then I'll go through mylist to verify all checksums with official sources.
And sometimes I wonder already why I've added file with good checksum but there was the same file with another ed2k hash and that file has tens of users! Do all have broken file or they just added it with easy way from animelist? I wonder if nobody except me has right file then.
It's why I've started that thread. :)
Last edited by LStranger on Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by kidan »

I only add files of which I have got the ed2k-link. If I can get a hand on a official crc then I add this right along. If a file is corrupted I mark it as this and try to get a new version.

OT: ep. 9 of Abenobashi has real bad sound-quality. Is there a fixed version?
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Post by Gambit »

LStranger wrote:And sometimes I wonder already why I've added file with good checksum but there was the same file with another ed2k hash and that file has tens of users! Do all have broken file or they just added it with easy way from animelist? I wonder if nobody except me has right file then.
That can go 2 ways.
First answer is: yes, everyone has the broken file. Remember that people share a file on ed2k. If that one has the wrong hash, all people will download that wrong hash from ed2k. Back then things weren`t so organised like it is now; AniDB didn`t even had the option to add crc verification ;) And there was also a time where AniDB didn`t even exist yet. So it`s pretty much possible that all these people have a bad hash.

The second answer is: No, not everyone has the broken file. But since people are lazy, don`t know what crc is, or don`t care, they just add the first available file to the list. Some people don`t even bother checking whether the group is the same as theirs, so you cannot always count them as reliable, these sources. Unfortunately.
Luckily lots of users do feel some responsibility and add crc verified files from IRC, newsgroups and such nowadays, but remember that there are still a shitload of users who never even heard about newsgroups or irc and just go for the easy-to-click link.
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Post by Iceman[grrrr] »

I guess people are lazy...
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Post by Elberet »

That's why we're using eMule and not IRC or DirectConnect. ;)
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