Censorship on Hentai files [DONE]
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I agree - the red "cens" from the above small icons should suffice - or maybe EXP is willing to allow a couple pixels more width to make it "censored".
Another alternative would be two boobs with a black bar over the nipples but that would only indicate that sexual content is censored and not other stuff like roricon or violence.
Another alternative would be two boobs with a black bar over the nipples but that would only indicate that sexual content is censored and not other stuff like roricon or violence.
The issue with that is how do you tell the difference between uncensored and censored. How about something like a smiley (maybenwa wrote:that's why it's better to have only the censored icon... which could be just a word in white letters on a red background
) for uncensored and cover it with the CENS for the censored? It doesn't have to be objectionable to be censored...
Yeah I was kinda irritated too - I thought that you only mark something that is altered and not stuff that is released without any altering.
I mean if there really is a release that is censored over years and only after things changed in the minds of the censorship the uncensored version is released, it is not necessary to mark the new version "uncensored", just leave the "censored" tag blank and you'll know that the version is not censored
It's the same with everything else. If audio lang is english you don't need to mark it "not japanese"
But I still understand where the idea for "uncensored" originated, since many movies out there are later on released as "uncensored" or "unrated" dumbfunding the moviegoers or DVD owners because they thought they already saw "the real deal".
What would happen then is that you'd have to change ALL files for that movie/Anime to "censored" and only have the new version without any additional markings. Sounds a bit idiotic, but that's the way I think it should be implemented.
I mean if there really is a release that is censored over years and only after things changed in the minds of the censorship the uncensored version is released, it is not necessary to mark the new version "uncensored", just leave the "censored" tag blank and you'll know that the version is not censored
It's the same with everything else. If audio lang is english you don't need to mark it "not japanese"
But I still understand where the idea for "uncensored" originated, since many movies out there are later on released as "uncensored" or "unrated" dumbfunding the moviegoers or DVD owners because they thought they already saw "the real deal".
What would happen then is that you'd have to change ALL files for that movie/Anime to "censored" and only have the new version without any additional markings. Sounds a bit idiotic, but that's the way I think it should be implemented.
is that supposed to be an answer to my post? if so, you misunderstood me, if not you can skip the rest :o)Skywalka wrote:Yeah I was kinda irritated too - I thought that you only mark something that is altered and not stuff that is released without any altering.
I am definetly for a censored/unknown/uncensored setting (read: 3 selectable values, with unknown being the default).
Simply because you will always have ppl, adding files, who do not care or do not know about those fields. So you simply can't say "everything that's not marked censored is uncensored". It's much more reliable to have uncensored files marked explicitly.
my question about nwa's post was whether he was proposing an additional, completly seperate cut/unknown/uncut field for each file (read: cut!=censored, uncut!=uncensored).
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EXP
@exp: I guess it was a mixture.
First of all I think you are right about the censorship thing, didn't think of it that way.
About the cut/uncut: I think that should be added as well since censoring can mean changing the color of blood, pixelating contents, while cutting means leaving out parts of an anime to for instance change the length to something that better fits the timeframe of the airings of a TV station - for instance here in germany Detective Conan episodes tend to be cut to a certain length, no matter how long they were before - which results in some special 24 minute long episodes to miss at least 2 minutes - this beeing not censorship but a cut due to other issues. And because we have a lot of german TV captures in the DB (for instance One Piece) this should be added I guess.
Maybe if an anime is censored as well as cut due to censorship both icons could be shown. That would be a matter of definition in a guide or something. There are always things that can be interpreted in more than one way, that's why we have the FAQ section
First of all I think you are right about the censorship thing, didn't think of it that way.
About the cut/uncut: I think that should be added as well since censoring can mean changing the color of blood, pixelating contents, while cutting means leaving out parts of an anime to for instance change the length to something that better fits the timeframe of the airings of a TV station - for instance here in germany Detective Conan episodes tend to be cut to a certain length, no matter how long they were before - which results in some special 24 minute long episodes to miss at least 2 minutes - this beeing not censorship but a cut due to other issues. And because we have a lot of german TV captures in the DB (for instance One Piece) this should be added I guess.
Maybe if an anime is censored as well as cut due to censorship both icons could be shown. That would be a matter of definition in a guide or something. There are always things that can be interpreted in more than one way, that's why we have the FAQ section
I think that there only needs to be a single field, the values could be censored/cut and uncensored/uncut. In general, probably you do not have things that are mixed, (although I am sure somebody will point out a few exceptions). Adding two fields will raise the likelyhood that the fields will be set/used incorrectly.
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I think then it would be better to use a string. Just a single icon when there is information about it and a mouse over or alt tip explaining the status of the anime. Possible settings:
Censored
Uncensored
Cut
Uncut
Censored/Cut
Censored/Uncut
Uncensored/Cut
Uncensored/Uncut
Anyway I think that cutting is a way of censoring, but agree that the distinction could be useful for Hentai.
Censored
Uncensored
Cut
Uncut
Censored/Cut
Censored/Uncut
Uncensored/Cut
Uncensored/Uncut
Anyway I think that cutting is a way of censoring, but agree that the distinction could be useful for Hentai.
...this seems a bit much for something that affects only a small portion of animes in the database. But, while we're having this debate, are people suggesting we remove, for instance, Dragon Ball Z (U.S. version), and move the files to Dragon Ball Z (original version), with a cut tag added? What about Robotech?
The easy solution is have a three state flag, (full version)/(edited version)/(unknown/irrelevant), with the last being default, and left that way for most files. Only when a file is notably either a cut/cens version, or an uncut/unces version would you change the state.
Rar
The easy solution is have a three state flag, (full version)/(edited version)/(unknown/irrelevant), with the last being default, and left that way for most files. Only when a file is notably either a cut/cens version, or an uncut/unces version would you change the state.
Rar