Assuming you`re talking to me, let me respond
epoximator wrote:no, users weren't happy with it, they were used to it. important difference.
You claim people weren`t happy with it, but used to it. Perhaps that`s true, I can`t say for sure, but I honestly haven`t seen many people complaining about them. Perhaps they weren`t happy, but they didn`t feel a need for changing it, otherwise there would be a lot more people saying something about it. Looking through this thread, I don`t exactly see many people encouraging the label-less idea though. Wouldn`t this thread be a decent indication of what the people want?
epoximator wrote:new and exp. users vote differently -> exactly why we shouldn't pretend that the numbers have meaning. i've seen "how could anyone vote less than 7 for this" (and similar) several times, were the user obviously has mapped some meaning to it and expects everyone else to follow.
And how exactly does having a no-labeled voting method make this easier? "How could anyone less than ++++ for this?
" would be the new reasoning, if you do it with the + way.
People have personal opinions, so of course people would still complain about others not voting according to what they believe it`s worth it. I don`t think that has much to do with the labels or ratings 1-10, really. If people see others voting differently than them, they will complain anyway. Whether you use an ABC-grading, 1-10 or a number of + signs, the result will be the same when others grade it differently. So I think that`s an issue by itself, not an issue concerning whether or not it has labels.
epoximator wrote:i also think you are underestimating "new" users. even a monkey know how to evenly distribute between 1-10. it's not like they can't, more like they don't want to, if that's the case
Never underestimate tards
No, really - I also believe that everyone should be able to distribute between 1-10. But like you said, want
are two different things. But that`s all beside the issue of having labels or not, imo, because either with or without, people vote the way they want.
You still keep the issue of someone clicking the 6th radiobutton/voting a 6 while someone else clicks the 8th/votes an 8, while still having a quite similar feeling about the show though. I think it`s better to regulate this by giving meaningful comments/labels to the options. Whether they`re numbers, plus-signs or radiobuttons, I don`t care (although I do like the numbers
And once again, once you watch more, your voting-sense changes as well. So eventually your votes will differ from how you used to vote, so you already create the gap between your current self and your previous self, so how would a different voting system solve that?
I admit that the old labels were subjective. How about more neutral labels then? i.e.
1 = worst
2 = very bad
3 = bad
4 = below average
5 = slightly below average
6 = slightly above average
7 = above average
8 = good
9 = very good
10 = best
where you take a 5.5 as the absolute average which you can`t choose, due to the fact 10 doesn`t have a middle.
Okay, perhaps the labels weren`t that good after all. But I rather see the people give input for new labels which fit the grades better rather than replacing it with an entirely different system without labels. That`s not criticizing your system, that`s criticizing the fact that they`re without labels