[MOVE][FILE] FID 148061: Tweeny Witches ep 5 & 6

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[MOVE][FILE] FID 148061: Tweeny Witches ep 5 & 6

Post by phip » Thu May 19, 2005 7:00 am

some schmuck just added a file for episode five of Mahou Shoujo Tai Arisu to represent AnimeForever's eps 5&6 double release.

If someone could be so kind as to make it a special like was done for 1&2 + 3&4, and maybe send this guy a link to the generic files explanation page, it would be muchly appreciated.

The File:
http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?s ... 61&nonav=1

Thanks!
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Post by Amour » Thu May 19, 2005 9:55 am

No, no.
The opposite should be done: double-episodes should be insert with regular episode.
http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?s ... e&aid=1607

And someone should give a link to phip for the generic files explanation page. ;)

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Post by fahrenheit » Thu May 19, 2005 12:01 pm

AF ep 5&6 DVD are not specials, they are the regular series, the only diference is that they are DVD rips, so i agree with amour, the dvd "specials" should be passed to the series and also it should be added generic files to make the eps span 2 files.

Alas it's just an issue of allow the pending creqs.

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Post by Caster » Thu May 19, 2005 12:13 pm

Hello, I'm the "some schmuck". I added it this way after consulting it with the ppl and ops at IRC. I also creqed the specials of 1+2 and 3+4 to be moved and deleted...

The links about generic files are:
http://www.anidb.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... eric_files
http://www.anidb.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... sode_files

The key sentence from there is:
If a group releases all eps in multi-ep-files (e.g. Future Boy Conan (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?s ... me&aid=330)), these files should be added to specials
If a group releases just some files that contain multiple eps (e.g. the dual eps in Prince of Tennis (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=56)), these files should be added to the first episode they contain.
And you know, AF-F does also the TVrips one ep/file. So the doubleep dvdrips are 'some files' not 'all files'.

(Well I don't agree with the use of specials for multiep releases in ANY case. It only means MORE ep entries and MORE generic file entries, I don't see any advantage there. let's flame!)

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Post by Der Idiot » Thu May 19, 2005 12:17 pm

for reference for mods (and only for those :P) the internal discussion about this: http://www.anidb.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3063

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Post by phip » Thu May 19, 2005 3:49 pm

Caster: It was late at night and I was being silly. Sorry for the "some schmuck" comment, I meant no insult.
If a group releases all eps in multi-ep-files (e.g. Future Boy Conan (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?s ... me&aid=330)), these files should be added to specials
If a group releases just some files that contain multiple eps (e.g. the dual eps in Prince of Tennis (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=56)), these files should be added to the first episode they contain.
This is exactly what I was going by when I started this thread.
And you know, AF-F does also the TVrips one ep/file. So the doubleep dvdrips are 'some files' not 'all files'.
It is true that AF-F does single-file TV rips, but these doubleEP DVD rips are a separate project from the TV rips. They are (slowly) going back through and rereleasing the whole show. This is not "some files", so I thought official policy was to make specials for them.

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Post by Caster » Thu May 19, 2005 5:01 pm

phip wrote:Caster: It was late at night and I was being silly. Sorry for the "some schmuck" comment, I meant no insult.
Nevermind, I would something similar too :D
It is true that AF-F does single-file TV rips, but these doubleEP DVD rips are a separate project from the TV rips. They are (slowly) going back through and rereleasing the whole show. This is not "some files", so I thought official policy was to make specials for them.
That's true, different project. Still I don't see why there should be special eps. The intentions behind the mods decision are unknown to us mortals :roll:

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Post by phip » Thu May 19, 2005 5:30 pm

OK, so now eps 1&2, 3&4 have been moved from specials to ep 1 and 3, respectively. Does this mean aniDB's policy has changed for "If a group releases all eps in multi-ep-files" and no longer uses specials for them?

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Post by Amour » Thu May 19, 2005 7:40 pm

I don't know Phip, but I do not like Specials for just multi-episodes files.

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Post by Elwen » Thu May 19, 2005 9:28 pm

I don't know if this will have any effect on the way this is resolved, but supposedly the DVD rips have additional footage not in the TV versions. So the 1&2 release is not really the same as watching TV episodes 1 and 2.

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Post by Caster » Thu May 19, 2005 10:36 pm

nwa granted my creqs. not sure if he's read this thread first :D Maybe with this specific series name this isn't the best thread to argument about general policies for multiep specials. But I already said my opinion :)

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Post by phip » Fri May 20, 2005 12:28 am

Well I do think we should change our official policy or not change the files. Otherwise entropy takes the database quickly, with files arranged according to individual whim. And we can't have that.

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Post by Amour » Fri May 20, 2005 2:25 am

Elwen wrote:I don't know if this will have any effect on the way this is resolved, but supposedly the DVD rips have additional footage not in the TV versions. So the 1&2 release is not really the same as watching TV episodes 1 and 2.
Really ?
When there is new footage, we create a new anime for that, isn't it? Like with GANTZ...

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Post by Elwen » Fri May 20, 2005 11:23 pm

Nevermind. From skimming the files, it looks like the "new footage" is just an intro and opening sequence and some eyecatch and title screen stuff to splice the two episodes.

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Post by hhaamu » Sun May 22, 2005 7:18 pm

Elwen wrote:it looks like the "new footage" is just an intro and opening sequence and some eyecatch and title screen stuff to splice the two episodes.
Indeed. I was under the impression [1] that it included new footage that actually had relevance to the plot, and watched them side by side. I found that the TV station had cut these things off: OP, previous episode summary, episode titles, ED and next episode preview. Absolutely zero cuts to the video.

Well, zero cuts to the video, if we don't count the aspect ratio change. I noticed that the TV source video had its edges cut, so that in some cases even the characters that were speaking remained mostly off-screen in the 4:3 version.

Do these cuts warrant marking the files as censored/uncensored?



[1] I remember AF-F's newspost saying "it all makes so much more sense now", when they released the 1&2 file... I just can't find it anywhere now.

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